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I almost always chart at the unit desk, like you Rose I have found that it fosters the relationship well. It’s a different kind of being present. Melanie I too have longevity in the field – CPE had only one didactic in research and did have to do a research project – but it was nothing like what is happening now. I think this is where we as leaders by nature of longevity may be able to learn from our newer colleagues and help them lead us in learning about research.